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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 00:33:00 -
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This topic might make a fairly amusing Eve Radio live debate with an invited panel of guests 
PS not supported obviously since I believe the identity theft should have been reversed almost immediately and Band of Brothers invited to reform their alliance name and identity.
The compromise solution we have now might be pretty messy and not fully satisfy anyone but its far better than allowing the goons to whine their way to reversal of whats obviously been a lengthy GM discussion and response to the identity theft petition.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 00:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rolann Same rules for everyone
You do realize that never before in the history of this mmorpg has anyone got away with such an outright identity theft as goonswarm stealing band of brothers by creatiing an alt corp to block alliance recreation right?
In the past this has always led to gm's nuking the stolen name and allowing the original owners to recreate their identity.
Goons are the ones who appear to be operating on a different ruleset to everyone else here if anything.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 01:02:00 -
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Originally by: Mochaporter
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Originally by: Rolann Same rules for everyone
You do realize that never before in the history of this mmorpg has anyone got away with such an outright identity theft as goonswarm stealing band of brothers by creatiing an alt corp to block alliance recreation right?
In the past this has always led to gm's nuking the stolen name and allowing the original owners to recreate their identity.
Goons are the ones who appear to be operating on a different ruleset to everyone else here if anything.
Actually, Haargoth's identity is STILL HIS! IDIOT!
I recommend reading before posting.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Kalie Erry Speaking of reading before posting Jade, are you going to read every post of unprecedented support for this idea?
I just see a standard goon+coalition threadnaught with no real substance demanding that ccp bend over for 5000 players in a dark corner of 0.0. Nothing new really.
Ultimately I think you need understand that a thread full of alts and mindless "+1s" doesn't really achieve anything.
This thread will go the way of the "make goons in charge of CAOD" thread and disappear in a couple of days in a puff of smoke and hyperbole and nobody will lament its absence.
Meanwhile the rest of the server gets on with playing the game.
I'd advise you to do the same.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 02:44:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Karma The most supported thread in the Assembly Hall should be dismissed in a puff of smoke.
You obviously have no faith in the CSM. Can you remember why it was created?
I have no faith in Goons Thats an entirely different matter. CSM was created (amongst other things) to provide oversight on correct goings on inside CCP in their relations to the community. In this case a GM has provided a response to the community and a decision has been made.
This thread represents a standard goon threadnaught trying to bully out advantage in Eve by threatening to damage CCP's PR on the internets.
Nobody should cave in to bullying.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 03:21:00 -
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Originally by: Lady Karma Do you really think all those posts for support are by Goons?
Well, I think the massive majority are from goons, goon alts, goon allies and good fanbois - a smaller proportion might be from younger players carried along with the hue and cry and mistakenly believing some of the complete nonsense that is being posted by the goons.
Ultimately this is partizan political thread and the goon coalition has been instructed to follow the party line by its leadership.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 03:39:00 -
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Originally by: Maraleith I really don't know what to make of this.
One one hand, a disgraced, cheating Alliance seems to yet again have been rewarded by GM's in what appears to be a clearly inappropriate use of GM discretion.
On the other, I am so sick of the pathetic, puerile destruction of COAD and the in-game spamming of Goonswarm.
I am amazed to find myself ambivalent; I really don't care. The more I think about it, the more I think that it is no big deal whether it is Kenzoku or BoB Reloaded.
As for goonies whining, I find myself thinking that perhaps if they showed more respect to others I would care that there was a bias against them by the GM's.
I suppose I will get spammmed with abusive eve-mails and 1 line abusive comments but as far as I am concerned is the only difference between Goonswarm and BoB is that BoB got caught cheating red handed.
Apart from that; there is not much between them at all.
Don't worry - Goons have been caught red-handed a fair bit in the past too. Its pretty standard for big-alliance corruption 
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 03:47:00 -
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Originally by: Tobruk are you saying there is no history of GM misconduct
There was a history of developer misconduct. It has been dealt with. Nowadays the "dev misconduct" thing is just a rallying call for goons to attempt to blugeon their way to victory in a political game that seeks to achieve results with whining and threadnaughts rather than playing the game.
Quote: and are you saying that nothing here is wrong at all? really?
Whats wrong here is that goons were allowed to keep the band of brothers alt corp without having it renamed "evecorp4234023049" in response to the bob leadership petition against identity theft.
Why this happened is even more troubling because I very much suspect it was delayed and delayed through fear of negative press before the retail release of the latest expansion. If this is indeed the case then it suggests the goon alliance has successfully bullied ccp into allowing full on identity theft to the detriment of an entire community of eve players and this is a very bad precedent.
Quote: come on Jade, please throw us all a bone and take a stand one way or the other (goonswarm aside). is it right or is it wrong.

I can't believe you couldn't read all that from my earlier posts to be quite honest.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 03:57:00 -
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Originally by: Xikulis Jade I am still waiting for your explanation on how you can steal a name nobody is using.
Well tee-shirts, mugs, killboard graphics, logos, hell ... custom keyrings and engraved nipple-clamps - who knows? Point as you very well know is that when 3000 players build a community around an ingame identity that identity belongs to them in some greater sense than a mere collection of letters.
But we both know your question was a troll since your own alliance leader has admitted "rushing" to register the alt corp identity purely to block the rightful owners of the name recreating their alliance name after the director-level emocide.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 04:07:00 -
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Originally by: Xikulis
Follow up question, since you were on CSM. Do you think when they add the ability to walk around in stations they should also add brothels?
Yes. And opium dens, illicit bare-knuckle fist-fighting rings, black market genetic emporiums, slums and every kind of seedy local you can think of.
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Jade Constantine
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Posted - 2009.03.25 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Shikome Alluin
If Molle hadn't removed the shares so alliance changes could go through without a vote then that's his mistake.
This isn't factual. Shares have nothing to do with the mechanic in play.
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